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anyone driven a twin engine vintage kart?
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Mike Berg



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: duals Reply with quote

Just a comment or two, regarding Steve comparison of a modern kart to a vintage dual. Myself and several friends race the Vintage karts mostly late 70's and early 80's, dual BBombs, single BM130, TT27, K78TT, etc..
Recently we raced at DelMar, Iowa a really great track, anyway I was agast to see they had left the times from a recent modern event on the line up board. Our fastest open's are slower then a STOCK KT100 HUH!!!
We spend too much time spinning wheels and slidding thru the turns. We have on occasion let modern TAG drivers drive our karts they always comment on the amount of power and the straightaway speeds, all thought our karts were much faster then their karts, WRONG, we never timed anyone just jump in drive and have some fun. Glad we didn't make any bets. I still prefer our karts to the $8,000 monsters of today, and the Vintage turnout was in the 60 to 70 kart range, the modern kart weekly turnout in less then 30, and half or more of them are Clones, we can beat them!!!
Vintage Always!!
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Greg Lindahl



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drove Scott Pruett's ex-Budweiser, Margay dual with LMR engines. What I recall is that it just kept accellerating nearly the entire length of the straights at Portland International Raceway. Great fun and much faster than the single engine stuff I was racing at the time.
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B Thomas



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dottie ( my wife ) and I at Delmar running what is considered to be low power duals .


http://youtu.be/pvRI9Bn_B3k

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Jean Stafford



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: anyone driven a twin engine vintage kart? Reply with quote

shaun stafford wrote:
I've seen a few of these in pictures and what not. They look insane in the pictures.


Are they really that fast?


Yes! In the day they ewere INSANE. Little grip, lots of power, and it weas mostly "stab and Steer".
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Tim Brown



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad raced the asphalt back in the 80's on a Bug, Black Widow with Duel open Yamahas, I got to drive it once and it was stupid fast for that day and age, he race for a kart shop in Salem, Or that's out of business now.
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Ted Hamilton



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool thread... have to laugh at that "on equal tires", etc. comments though... Lake Speed, et al have added modern tire compounds, widths, and better brakes to the "vintage" rides... Cool, and probably safer, but not quite the same vintage experience. I know that Carlisle has tires today that are comparable to the Goodyear Blue Streaks, both in 3.5 and 4" widths, and I think we even got 'em in 5" wide too.... I know because I used 'em on 1/10 asphalt oval racing when I started and it was great -- they'd last a whole season, just about.

I wonder if there would be a market for a "modern" vintage org running a competitive points series on vintage and repro karts...
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larry goertz



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: twin leopards Reply with quote

Sory it took so long to post,I have been fighting cancer, My twin, I do not have any rear photo's of kart, what I did was take a rocket chassey , and I duplicated right side to the left, added a fourth rail and bearing support, I then machined a new keyway on the axle for the rear brakes, I then flipped the brake assembly over and mounted it on the right inside bearing support, then the keyway that was origanlly for the brake i put the hub for the left engine drive sprocket, then teed both cooling systems together and used one bannana radiater out front wear the faring would normally be,I then took the 28mm carbs and manifolds off and installed the manifolds off of a komet k-55, I then put hr191 carbs on ported the engines, and lacated a battery box up front between the pedals for ballast, this is the funnest kart I ever have driven,I ran it for about six years and it still is race ready, had engines with in 40rpms of each other. larry
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Feb of 1962 I was in Daytona for the 500 with my dad and family. I was 11 at the time. Rathmann had a triple Mc-10 Xterminator there with modified motors built by Bobby Allen's dad. We got to race on the dirt Dog track outside of turn one. I ran my single Xterminator for a while then my dad and Rathmann put me in that triple. I am only guessing today that those engines must have made around 15hp each at the time. That's 45 hp ! I bet the kart with me in it didn't weigh much more than 200 lbs. I can still hear the engines and feel the acceleration. Absolutely incredible.
Oh yea, we wore open face helmets, jeans and t-shirts. No gloves or neck braces. Those were the days. Still miss my dad. Sad
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