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Tyson Henry
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Volker Krahn
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Germany and that's my idea and my burning desire
1. Schumacher
2. Vettel
3. Rosberg
4..... Huelkenberg? |
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Greg Nelson
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 1712
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton _________________ Motohead |
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Mike Goebel
Joined: 28 Jul 2001 Posts: 5765 Location: United States, California, Winnetka
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Mike Goebel wrote: | 1 Schumi
2 Vettel
3 Rosberg
Change to
Alonso
Hammy
Kimi
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Good thing I changed my picks too late
So is Vettel 2nd or 5th
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Volker Krahn
Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Germany, not USA state, Hanover
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Vettel got a 20 seconds penalty and is 5th |
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Tim Doll
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 2643 Location: United States, Washington,
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Am I the only one that thinks the drivers penalties have gotten a little over the top?
Tim _________________ Standard disclaimer - I'm FREE - No longer affiliated with any organization, I can say whatever I darn well please!.
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Tim Salvino
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim Doll wrote: | Am I the only one that thinks the drivers penalties have gotten a little over the top?
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No, that 20 second penalty was crap. Vettel gained what, 2 seconds MAX by staying outside Button and running off the track? I dont think there should have been any penalty. Button did not leave him any room to re enter. What was he supposed to do, slow and wait for Button to go by, then re enter? |
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Volker Krahn
Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 53 Location: Germany, not USA state, Hanover
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Vettel was very quicker at the time than Button. I think these rules from the FIA are ridiculous and this penalty was not justified.
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Gregory Dzielinski
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 221 Location: United States, New Jersey, Ramsey
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Didn't Mansell make the same type of move at Spa ? _________________ The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will. |
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Larry Andrews
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2847 Location: United States, California, SC Mtns
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I think the helicopter camera shot told the story. Button had no grip and Vettel's line was WAY longer and on a bad surface. In equal cars, Button would have come out ahead. Once again, Ferrari International Assistance saves the day - but for a different benefactor this time.
Ross Bentley has some cool thoughts on his Facebook page about this... Look for 'Driver Coach' if you don't already keep up with him. |
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Johnny Brooks
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 312 Location: United States, Virginia, Arlington
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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The stewards couldn't get anything to stick concerning the ECU/Mapping 'discussion' that morning; so when this 'opportunity' showed itself...
I agree with the helicopter shot analysis...Button's tire tracks showed how little grip he had.
If Vettel had held his line alongside Button, the McLaren would have slid into him. And didn't they just 'clarify' the rules that if you get a wheel alongside, you must be given room? Why wasn't Button penalized for violating that?
The racing sure is better this year, but the 'inconsistency' of the FiA is the same as always.  _________________ The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.--Winston Churchill |
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Juan D Gomez
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Tim Salvino wrote: |
What was he supposed to do, slow and wait for Button to go by, then re enter? |
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