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Chad Stapleton
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4403
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Jim Derrig wrote: | | .. This year we have 7 different winners in 7 races. Enjoy it and quit whining. |
Yep .. just like a lottery result ! ..an NO , not exciting!
F1 is supposed to be about driver talent, car technology, team performance etc.
What is the point of all the tech development and driver effort if the single over riding factor is tire performance ??.
I agree a "tire war" is not what is needed, but the influence of tires is currently too great. _________________ Chad
"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do !!" |
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Tim Doll
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 2644 Location: United States, Washington,
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Tire management has always been a part of racing, particularly in F1. But Parelli has moved it to a new level, where it has perhaps become the MOST important part of the race.
Canada actually wasn't that bad - that race a month ago where they had two steps between the tires was a complete joke.
Worse, when teams simply don't go out in Q3 because keeping tires is more important than grid position, well now it's compromising the integrity of the whole sport (not to mention making qualifying a joke). If Parelli is going to continue with the current crappy selection of tires, the least they can do to keep qualifying relevent is to replace the Q3 tires that were used for the fast lap with a fresh set.
Tim _________________ Standard disclaimer - I'm FREE - No longer affiliated with any organization, I can say whatever I darn well please!.
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Tyson Henry
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 349 Location: United States, Texas, Arlington
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Best racing in YEARS in F1 and you people are complaining? How is the tire the single most important factor? How about the fact that Grojean and Perez did a single stop and managed to put up fast laps at the end of the race? Maybe because they were much smoother and easier on the tires.
Lets not blame the tires on the fact that Alonso pushed too hard and ran his tires into the ground. Lets blame his team for keeping him out to long or the fact that maybe their engineers need to do something about the car eating tires?
In my ten years of watching F1 I am enjoying watching this season more than any. |
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Francois Brun-Wibaux
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 190 Location: United States, Florida, Bradenton
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| ^^^Totally agree with Tyson, best F1 season for many years, the tires have always been an issue, every year.... This year the tires might suck but they suck equally for every team, those that figure it out first win, that's racing in F1. Technology, strategy and luck.. |
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Jim Derrig
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 1014 Location: United States, Washington,
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Chad Stapleton"] | Jim Derrig wrote: |
What is the point of all the tech development and driver effort if the single over riding factor is tire performance ??.
I agree a "tire war" is not what is needed, but the influence of tires is currently too great. |
But given rough equivalence in other factors, tires are pretty much always the most influential factor.
I've been to exactly one GP. Canada 2001. I remember sitting in the stands before the race and the sun came out. I turned to my wife and said "Ralf Schumacher just won." He was on the front row in a Williams wearing Michelins and MS's ferrari wore Bridgestones. The Michelins were clearly superior in warm weather. The race was over before it began and RS did indeed win, and without much effort. The difference was so great that Alesi in a Prost (!) caught and passed Mika Hakinnen in a McLaren.
Two years later, in 2003 Montoya might well have won the WDC except that with 3 races to go the FIA declared the Michelins illegal, forcing most of the field onto inferior, quickly-redesigned replacements. Ferrari dominated the next 3 races.
In 2004 Bridgstone and Ferrari became "Ferraristone" and gave us one of the most boring seasons in the history of racing.
In 2005 the FIA changed the tire regs and "Ferraristone" couldn't get in enough testing to keep up with the multi-team Michelin approach. Ferraristone got is arse handed to it and Alonso won his first WDC.
And so on. Tires are a big factor. Always have been and always will be. I think we're really splitting hairs when we complain that tires are "too much" of a factor this year. |
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