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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR |
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Hi Craig
Are those new pics on a seperate link?
[quote="Riley Will
Aprilia's last magnesium cased RSW with APF cylinder
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Wow, that does look "the dogs"
I love that airbox attachment bar come carb vent, nice detail.
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Ian  _________________ Ian Harrison
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Craig Butt
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 95 Location: United States, Ohio, Columbus
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: YOUR |
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| Ian Harrison wrote: | Hi Craig
Are those new pics on a seperate link?
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Ian,
Added to gallery in original link.
Craig _________________ Craig Butt / Ohio Valley Region SCCA
2003 Italkart Supersonic / CRS (x2!) |
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Riley Will
Joined: 03 Sep 2001 Posts: 1361 Location: Canada, not USA state,
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Ian,
Notice the titanium spigot for the Det sensor on the power valve cover?! Details aboud with Aprilia!!!! How about the Ti fasteners?
Yup, it's the bullocks!
As you know, the RSA takes it to another level altogether! Motor Porn! _________________ Riley Will
BRC Engineering
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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: Re: YOUR |
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| Craig Butt wrote: | | Ian Harrison wrote: | Hi Craig
Are those new pics on a seperate link?
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Ian,
Added to gallery in original link.
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I only see the original 7, am I doing something wrong
Ian  _________________ Ian Harrison
Viper Racing UK
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Craig Butt
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 95 Location: United States, Ohio, Columbus
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: Re: YOUR |
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I only see the original 7, am I doing something wrong
Ian [/quote]
No, it would seem my "flikr skills" suck
I uploaded them but hadn't actually added them to the set - they are there now:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/craig71188/sets/72157629162920277/
Craig _________________ Craig Butt / Ohio Valley Region SCCA
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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Hi Craig
OK, I can see them all now.
What a weird clutch lever arrangement!!!!!
Unfortunately the last picture reveals that it is a non-sideloader.
Be a fun project for you to restore. I'm sure it will give you hours of frustration and fun
Best Regards
Ian  _________________ Ian Harrison
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Sam Zavaglia
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Australia, Sydney,
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Riley Will wrote: | | As you know, the RSA takes it to another level altogether! Motor Porn! |
Is this the porn your talking about Riley?
It's come some way from using that ZIP/Rotax on the farm yard.
8 x 8mm studs to hold the head cover on.....stronger than a John Deere.
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Sam Zavaglia
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Australia, Sydney,
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Double Post.... _________________ www.samzavaglia.com |
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Riley Will
Joined: 03 Sep 2001 Posts: 1361 Location: Canada, not USA state,
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sam,
Yes, the RSA125 and the rarer RSA250. They changed both engines for the same thrust face of the piston along with a new power valve layout and of course the rear central disk valve inlet on the 125. _________________ Riley Will
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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Hi Guys
This is a bit general and Sam pulled the trigger with his observation of the head studs on the Aprilia.
That looks a great improvement from Aprilia particularly in terms of long term reliability.
I have long been a critic of "1 race" marginal engineering, where GP teams (without stringent financial contraints) just replace parts that are only fit for the bin after a meeting or 2. No worries about making a season, the effects of stripping and replating cylinders, clutch longevity, marginal gearboxes failing, etc., etc.
OK, nothings that simple and there's a world of difference between a bike GP team/manufacturer and your average superkarter, but all too often we end up with secondhand, innapropriate technology and too often pay the price that eventually puts the individual out of the game and discourages others from even considering the journey.
Reliability with power is entirely possible (although I realise that re-engineering is not cheap).
For the manufacturer that grasps the nettle, there is a long term market out there, that is capable of sustainable growth.
Some may already be taking a longer term view and be embarking on that course.
Just a bit of a rant!!
Best Regards
Ian  _________________ Ian Harrison
Viper Racing UK
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Sam Zavaglia
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Australia, Sydney,
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ian Harrison wrote: | Sam pulled the trigger with his observation of the head studs on the Aprilia.
That looks a great improvement from Aprilia particularly in terms of long term reliability.
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Assen 2009, Race 2.....got a hot shower.......that's why I noticed..... I see some missing threads in the picture below
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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi Sam
Yeah, the rear bolt pulled the thread clean out then the insert tilted up at the back and broke off the piece of cylinder.
From the piston it was running nice though
Ah, well.
Best Regards
Ian  _________________ Ian Harrison
Viper Racing UK
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George Sunderland
Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Here's a good shot at the unique disc valve. I'm told the Chinese have or are near to making a cheaper copy?

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George Sunderland
Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Video of the vtwin engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIkBi3FvPWA
Still think you have to be nuts to drop that kind of $$ on a go-kart engine.
That Zip is almost exactly the same as one I have except mine has calipers on both sides of the rear. Still one of my best handling karts. I even prefer it to my newer upright front end karts.
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Greg Stamm
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 40 Location: United States, Michigan, South Lyon
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: Picture of 87 or 87 Zip Kart |
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After significant digging thru my archives I found my 86 or 87 ZipKart brochure. Below is a black and white copy of the cover that shows the original body work that came with the kart you now have. Donna Hupp ran this kart new in the Mid States series with this bodywork, minus the driver fairing.
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