list of weights at Nats.

Bill Schmidt · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:31 am Post subject: list of weights at Nats.

Does anyone know how we go about getting a list of weigh-ins from nats for f125 and f125L? I think we had them last year.
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d d · Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 213

I would ask Brian Harmer. You can PM him on Mokan, or call the National Office. I know he post sound results, I would think he would have access to weights as well.
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Shawn P. Hill · Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Posts: 120

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http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/forumid/9/postid/414208/scope/posts#414208
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Tom Reynolds · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:37 am Post subject:

I have just the kart weights if you want those (just received today), shoot me an email. treynolds at me.com.

Joe Ricard · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:50 am Post subject:

OK I got a question,

Why is 390 pounds about as close as anyone was gettig to 385? and some peeps were wearing lead filled vests and were significantly over the minimum. Were the scales that "flakey"
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Tom Reynolds · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:33 am Post subject:

Do you want to risk DQ to be 4lbs closer? Plus everyone had to be drinking lots of water, it was extremely humid/hot.

Eric Nelson · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:34 am Post subject:

Check kart #50, he was running the thinnest weight margin.

Personally I always make sure I am at least 4 - 5 lb over, just because of the way it scales down (no pun intended). For example many cars with 2500+ minimum weight are coming in with a 1% - 2% safety margin, which seems like a reasonable error range for the scales. If you run a non-PI kart at #390 and the scales are off by 1.5%, you're DQ.

Danny Kao · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 192

I thought the scales were pretty good this year. I don't think it was off by much if it's off at all.

I received a kart only version of the weight list like Tom. Since the entire list is posted on sccaforum, I guess there is no harm to post it here. So there it is: (The spacing is off, so you have to figure this out a little)

Thanks to Brian Harmer for the sound data!

2011 Nationals Kart Weights
Class Car # Vehicle Minimum Weight Day 1 Weight Day 2 Weight
F125 1 2010 Tony Kart 385 392 391
F125 6 2005 Haase Future 405 427 431
F125 11 2001 SKM Kart 385 425 428
F125 13 2005 Vanspeed Sirio 420 437 437
F125 20 1999 Honda Tony Kart 385 398 403
F125 21 1996 Renspeed Honda 385 390 393
F125 22 2005 Tony Kart Venox 420 428 429
F125 25 2010 Tony Kart 385 390 393
F125 27 1995 MBA Shifter 385 392 400
F125 30 2002 CRG Road Rebel 385 392 392
F125 35 2007 Swiss Hutless 405 415 411
F125 41 2008 GP8 385 390 388
F125 43 405 428 430
F125 45 2008 CRG Road Rebel 405 411 410
F125 50 2005 Intrepid Explorer 385 385 391
F125 51 2000 Track Magic 385 397 394
F125 56 2002 CRG Heron 385 391 392
F125 64 2008 Shockwave Longs 385 405 404
F125 79 1995 Track Magic 385 434 438
F125 95 2008 Mike Wilson 45 412 415
F125 96 1998 Birel 385 406 398
F125 98 2005 Haase 405 413 427
F125 99 2002 Track Magic Diablo 385 390 398
F125 101 2010 Tony Kart 385 410 410
F125 111 2001 SKM Kart 385 390 393
F125 113 2005 Vanspeed Sirio 420 470 465
F125 121 1999 Renspeed 385 391 393
F125 127 1995 MBA Shifter 385 408 412
F125 130 2002 CRG Road Rebel 385 391 392
F125 135 2008 CRG Road Rebel 405 446 446
F125 145 2008 CRG Road Rebel 405 442 427
F125 164 2008 Shockwave Longs 385 393 396
F125 195 2008 Mike Wilson 405 410 413
F125 196 1998 Birel 385 387 391
F125L 5 2008 Honda AMV 385 399 398
F125L 19 2002 CTS Honda 385 391 388
F125L 71 2006 Birel Honda 385 394 390
F125L 79 1995 Track Magic 385 397
F125L 98 2005 Haase 405 410 412
FJA 4 2000 Haase 305 309
FJA 6 2001 BRM 305 310
FJA 11 2002 Biesse 305 311
FJA 15 2000 Yamaha TopKart 305 308
FJA 21 2009 BRM 285 299
FJA 22 1991 Margay Puma 285 304
FJA 47 2003 Birel 305 305
FJA 78 2002 Renspeed 285 294
FJA 83 1996 Margay Indy 305 327
FJA 91 2000 VMT Shark 305 327
FJA 92 2000 Haase Blizzard 285 322
FJA 98 2006 Arrow AX-9 4S 305 312
FJA 99 2009 Birel 305 313
FJA 178 2002 Renspeed 285 307
FJB 3 2002 Margay 250 259
FJB 10 1995 Trick 245 270
FJB 21 1995Invader 245 259
FJB 78 2006 Birel AR28 250 257
FJB 94 2010 Nelson Special 250 257
FJB 98 2007 CRG Cadet 250 260
FJB 121 2009 Margay 245 257
FJB 178 2006 Birel AR28 250 255
FJB 194 2010 Nelson Special 250 254

Dale Seeley · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:42 am Post subject:

Joe,
You have to be careful with setting your weight. People that come across the scales less than 5 pounds over are risking a DQ due to the possibility of a flakey scale, a tailwind over the scales, a lost part on course (Lisa, whew!), lower fuel load due to reruns, lost water weight... the list goes on and on.

Besides, 5 pounds isn't the difference between drivers at an autocross.

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It would have been real interesting if the drivers had been weighed also! Cool

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Keith Vail · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject:

Joe Ricard · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:44 pm Post subject:

Keith, your experience virtually mirrors my past events where scales were present. Drives me crazy (which lately is a short trip).

I guess you guys have a point about 5 pounds safety. I easily can sweat 5 lbs.
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Danny Kao · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 192

Tom Reynolds · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject:

Eric Nelson · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject:

Uhhh.....

I think most karts are 198 lb - 205 lb with no weight added. But there's no way to tell driver weight because list doesn't say who has weight bolted on.

Ryan Lower is stout but I don't think quite 350 lb !!