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Mark Whitley
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 94 Location: United States, New Jersey, Laurel Springs
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: Horstman Drive Sprockets with Needle Bearings -? |
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I'm interested in hearing opinions and suggestions about the Horstman HDC-5 Drive Sprockets with the needle bearings.
I thought they would be great, but it's been chewing on my Kt100 shaft.
I lubed it with MOTUL Grease when I installed it and put a couple drops of TriFlow on it in between rounds.
Used it for 2 race days before removing and inspecting it.
I think I prefer the bushing as they've really lasted with the same lube technique I just mentioned.
Any advice on lubing the needle bearings and or maintenance?
Or do you also prefer the bushings? |
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Walt Gifford
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 4285 Location: United States, South Jerrrsey,
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've never had a problem with the needle bearing gears but I use a steel nytro wet clutch which I suppose gets some fluid from leakage. I can see where the hard needles would work on the shaft if dry. You could still use the gears if you could replace the needles with some custom made oilite bronze bushings. I hear tell of a gray haired old man in south jersey that can do such things.
Gif  _________________ FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician
Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001
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40 years karting experience |
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Pete Muller Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2001 Posts: 1950 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I would definitely go bushing. Even if it was a larger sprocket with plenty of room for a bearing, I'd still use a bushing.
The relative speed between the sprocket and the crank is only high at a standstill. Anything over clutch stall speed and there is no (or very little movement). The load carrying capability of the bushing is much higher.
It's no contest... bushing wins. |
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Mark Whitley
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 94 Location: United States, New Jersey, Laurel Springs
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Walt Gifford wrote: | I hear tell of a gray haired old man in south jersey that can do such things.
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Thanks Gif. but I R a machinist as well.
I tried making broze bushings as well as copper bushings for the standard sprockets before.
The bronze didn't hold up very well, too thin.
Although they might last longer replacing the needle bearing.
I might even try teflon.  |
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randoll doon
Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| Mark Whitley wrote: |
I might even try teflon.  |
lemme know how the teflon goes ... _________________ a problem should only be solved once |
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John Wehrheim
Joined: 20 Jul 2001 Posts: 1201 Location: United States, Georgia, Norcross
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone know how to replace/remove the needle bearings in a 10 tooth gear? I tried to remove it in one gear with no luck. |
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Walt Gifford
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 4285 Location: United States, South Jerrrsey,
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Put the gear in a vise with the gear up and bearing down. Take a small screw driver through the hole and catch the inside rim of the bearing and tap it out. What ever you do don't heat the gear. |
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patrick slattery
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Location: United States, Ohio, cleves
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| I have had nothing but issues with the 10th bearing drum. Galling, welding to the crank, breaking the drum. Very unpredictable. I was told with any drum you should not expect more than 2-3 races with the product by Horstman themself. To me that is not acceptable and it is not what other drums provide with longevity |
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