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Jeff Sligh



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Ken, as if building a TaG Enduro wasn't enough work! Love the amount of innovation that you have shown in your karts and engines. One question though, what kart are you planning on putting this on? Is it possible that we will soon have a thread on here about the "Blown Clone" Enduro? Very Happy
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Ken Olson



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Location: United States, Washington, Monroe

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Just after I built it.. Reply with quote

Jeff,
Right now it's on an 07 Buller Velocity dirt chassis for testing..

It was destined for Robeling Road to test on a laydown but never made it.. Dom was going to run it.. had issues with the carb slide sticking because the blower pulled a huge depression on the back side of the DAP 34mm Alky carb.. that was a real eye opener..

Fixed it by putting a big ol' 38mm BM gas butterfly Mikuni jetski carb on it.. but it turned out to be too big and got lazy.. then the crank broke @ 8800rpms..
and took out the bottom end/cam..

Have a brand new decked/align bored/honed block and sidecover along with a genuine Honda crank from a Canadian 160 racing team that will end up pulling duty one of these days along with a special Dynocams "Blower grind"

Less lift on the exhaust side, but more duration and different CL's Smile
And thanks for the kind words.

Here is a short video from the first time it was fired.. just idling..

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1374388569025
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Gordon Duax



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Location: United States, Texas, San Antonio

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Fun Clone "Blown" setup Reply with quote

Ken Olson wrote:
........ Blower off a Japanese commuter car.....


Hm, looks like one of the ones I imported.
I actually sell more of these to the Euro bike people to go on the older under 1000cc twins.
Have a few running at the salt lake on bikes.
And, several being run on V8 drag cars.......
as a vacuum pump !
Turns out, they don't degrade like the Moroso, etc. vane style vacuum pumps.

Do you have any on-track video of that thing ?
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Ken Olson



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Blower Reply with quote

Yes Gordon, you get the credit for coming up with these.. appreciate your help.
It was a really interesting project to build and listen to it's first breath.. may end up trying that thing as a vacuum pump after I rebuild the engine this next time.. sorry, never got any footage before she blew up.. hopefully in the future.. Embarassed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AMR300-Supercharger-Briggs-Clone-BSA-Triumph-Norton-/200635136101?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb6c93865
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John Matthews



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Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ken,

Looks like fun but I don't think you'll ever get decent reliability from industrial engines. I've found that Animals can stand up to 25 hp and clones about 19hp before reliability goes to heck. For what you have into this project I'd recommend going with a JR Racecar billet block.

Thanks for sharing this kind of cool stuff with the sprint world, dirt oval racers get to see open class running at their local tracks quite often but sprint karters might not even be aware of the innovation going on with small engines.

I'm in the process of moving my shop into a new space and just packed up my engine bench, hopefully this winter I'll be able to get to some of the fun projects I have Cool

Cheers,
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Ken Olson



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:49 am    Post subject: Fun projects Reply with quote

Thanks John,
Got to keep the FUN in karting.. don't think I will build another 4 stroke, it was just a project to see if I could make it run well.. and by the seat of the pants I felt.. it was way beyond 19HP.. pulled pretty good @ 12psi.

Besides, I kind of have a weak spot for those nasty 2 strokes.
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Robert Kielbasa



Joined: 11 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol wow, my mouth literally dropped when I saw that motor.

However, I have a request... well.. no... more like a demand. I went to click on the link to view the video and it said it was no longer available!!! can you put it on youtube or something!?!?! Please!? That's awesome!
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Ken Olson



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: Blown Clone Reply with quote

Robert.. the only short video on You Tube is here.. or you could "friend me" on FB, short video is still there taken with a decent camera.. just search my name..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzt1T0PCGM8
It came from my cell phone which has crappy sound, but you will get the idea what it sounds like at an idle.. surges like a top alcohol dragster..

God, I love this video.. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYK7Mq_uI08&NR=1

These are also quite inspirational..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJJncAxszBU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TCaRqxVqwU&feature=related
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Dominic Greco



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Just after I built it.. Reply with quote

Ken Olson wrote:
Jeff,
Right now it's on an 07 Buller Velocity dirt chassis for testing..

It was destined for Robeling Road to test on a laydown but never made it.. Dom was going to run it.. had issues with the carb slide sticking because the blower pulled a huge depression on the back side of the DAP 34mm Alky carb.. that was a real eye opener..


Ken,

I have the new HD 3D Hero cam if it ever makes it my way...

Nothing like warp speed in 3-D.
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mike clements



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first love in karting is for innovation and building big hp 4 strokes. However, the LO-206 has an excellent spot in the sport for those who would rather run a "spec" class and not have to worry about being beat my "more HP". This is a well thought out packge that happens to be affordable and available to everyone. Plus, I like to buy them back at the end of one or two seasons of racing. They make excellent building blocks for modifieds. Very Happy
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Ryan Knowlton



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The clone allowed me to get started in karting with my wife going back to school for the year. I don't have $1000 for a WF and no one races the LO206 around here. I've got about $350 into my entire drivetrain including 5 different driver sprockets, 6 rear sprockets, an extra clutch, extra jets, and upgraded filter/intake/header/muffler.
No race gas or expensive pre-mix oils, and will be better than not doing anything next year.
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Bill Martin



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Fun Clone "Blown" setup Reply with quote

Ken Olson wrote:
Just a toy to play with, How about someone building an L206 Blower motor, turbo or nitrous motor so I can have someone to race this with?

Clone base engine(still standard bore 196cc's) from HF,ARC Rod,Raceseng Billet Flywheel,Matt Sachs Billet head, Blower off a Japanese commuter car,Tig welded home made 1.25" Stainless induction system with 24lb burst valve, Polaris pentagon fuel pump,DAP 34mm slide alky carb,DynoCams 270° duration cam(close to .400" lift w/roller rockers), Manton 1/4" pushrods, re-created loop header from a flatty, fully vented w/AN braded hoses and Pan evac system.. idles like a top Alcohol dragster... that famous surge, with the power going to a Horstman axle clutch Twisted Evil



Well, that does look like fun...where is that blower from? Twisted Evil

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