Spec Honda Pipe Cracking Solutions???...

Jeff DeMello · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject:

OK Tom I bought one of the first Italsistims in the US. What a dumb a$$ right Rolling Eyes

Like I said before you send me and keep running and I will run your motors Wink

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Oscar Aguilera · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1614

everyone whose pipe cracks should switch to kt100 can!

haha lol!

Jeff DeMello · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject:

I get to keep my Honda
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Tom Barth · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject:

Jeff,

Not sure what a Italsistem is. Is it a KZ?

If you want to run KZ find one and I'll keep it running for you. KZ is best shifter kart engine out there. Don't care what kind it is. As long as I can get parts I can make it run better than any Honda.
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Roy Montgomery · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject:

As long as I can get parts I can make it run better than any Honda.[/quote]

And thats with a 30MM carb! Very Happy

Tom
Ever put a 38MM carb on an ICC?

RM

Larry Andrews · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject:

Give the pipe a place to go and it won't have to crack in order to get there. Best part is that the o-ring gland dimensions stay the same...you'll still get good sealing.

<shrug>

Tom Barth · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject:

Roy,

Iv'e put a 36mm on the ICC for the long track but lately the best set up is with the 30mm. Most guys (tuners) out there don't understand what makes the ICC run like it does. I.E. the ICC turning 14,000 R's is designed to use the 30mm carb. At 13,500+ the engine is getting plenty of fuel/air. Bigger is not always better. 'Just right' is best. Remember the smaller venturi makes for a more responsive throttle. You can put the biggest carb you want on the moto engine, still won't run with a well tuned ICC.

I've also changed the ignition to handle more compression...no help. Just do the things to the ICC that it likes (all within) CIK regs and it is a 'happy camper'.
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Roy Montgomery · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: ICCS

Sonny Van Hook · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject:

Larry:

Great post. Thanks for trying to stay on topic.

Sonny
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Steve Eady · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 956

Larry
Yes great way to explain it, thats what we do on our personal engines and have never had a problem.

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Mike Goebel · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:39 am Post subject:

From mfg Tech Centre welding department

I hope this is allowed other wise I have to fork out another $350. Total BS!!

Mike G.

Doug Hayashi · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:46 am Post subject:

Mike Goebel · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:09 am Post subject:

Yeah I had them fix 2 so far for about $125 ea time. I'm trying to find a fix that lasts Laughing

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Mike G.

Sam Zavaglia · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject:

Mike,
Take a bore scope with you so tech can see there is nothing funny happening underneath the repair.

Should tech still not allow that then they are just a bunch of aholes. Everybody knows that the pipe can crack there and that is the only logical reason for your repair.
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Mike Goebel · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: