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Larry Andrews
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2852 Location: United States, California, SC Mtns
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Dono if a dangerously unstable car is what OWR needs. If one of those cars flips mario-style into the stands... |
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VINCE SCHNEIDER
Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 311 Location: United States, Indiana, Carmel
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:33 pm Post subject: New Indy Car |
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Scott,
You forced my hand, its a new venture that Kery and I have been working on the past year. Evan Bayh is the new investor, race team name to be announced by Kery Cole.
What about it Kery, go ahead and tell them!!!!!!! I will give you the honors!!!!!!!! Evan won't mind!!!!!!!! |
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Kevin Callahan
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 1034 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Larry,
I bet the Delta Wing won't be unstable by race day. What I'm saying is that preview marketing buzz car will "evolve" and that front end will widen out before/during testing. |
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Kerry Cole
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 1861 Location: United States, Indiana, Indianapolis
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| I would say that a race for 500 miles that takes over 6 & 1/2 hours is a "spectacle". It was entertaining at the end, some great wrecks. |
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Quinton Dawn
Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 428 Location: United States, Texas, Dallas
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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yes the delta wing look incredibly stupid ! maybe im thinkin about it too much but since the rear is so much wider than the front and obviously any driver for the most part is used to having rear pretty much as wide as the front i think there would be alot of extra wrecks just due to the fact that as a driver your side by side with somebody yet you like 10ft apart !
qd _________________ OBSESSED......it's what the LAZY USE TO DESCRIBE THE DEDICATED |
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Troy Feyerabend
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 254 Location: United States, California, Valencia
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Kevin Callahan wrote: | Larry,
I bet the Delta Wing won't be unstable by race day. What I'm saying is that preview marketing buzz car will "evolve" and that front end will widen out before/during testing. |
I agree.
Push the front wheels out, shorten the wheelbase a bit and it reminds me of the Brabham BT52 |
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John Denman
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4846 Location: United States, Texas, McKinney
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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If the Delta Wing makes it to race day you can be sure the lawyers have figured out a way to make it stable.
The problem I see is the roll center and moment arm ratios between the front and rear. At higher speeds if it begins just a little oversteer I doubt a Cray could calculate iterations of steering corrections fast enough.
If you're interested in mundane stuff like Roll Centers and Virtual swing axle length etc take a peek at Race Car Tuner and watch the animations on Dynamic Suspension Geometry.
IMO all the Delta Wing is for is forcing heads to turn whilst expelling noises like "Gee Whiz" or more likely "Holy $%|!". Seems to be working. _________________ John Denman
Producer for RTMP
http://www.kartweb.com |
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Chad Stapleton
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4403
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| John Denman wrote: |
IMO all the Delta Wing is for is forcing heads to turn whilst expelling noises like "Gee Whiz" or more likely "Holy $%|!". Seems to be working. |
Could well be true John.
But its like a politician wearing a clown suit to gain attention ....a fine line between getting noticed and destroying your credibility.  _________________ Chad
"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do !!" |
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Kerry Matthews
Joined: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 778 Location: United States, California, Sacramento
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the pics of the new Lola today. I like it! And the Swift design. I really liked the Panoz DP01 a lot though too... _________________ Play now, work later! |
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