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John Denman
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| wally wallen wrote: | Yeah, I enjoyed Indy cars more back when. Novi, Ford, Chevy, (even one out of a old school bus), Offy etc. I've only been to Indy once, back in the early 70s, but the cars not only didn't look alike, it seemed like each one sounded different.
Really cool. not like the spec series they run now. 
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Amen. I was a bit younger when Chapman brought his little cigar tube racer along with a Scotsman. I still have Jimmie's autograph on the program from that year. I still remember the unique sound of the engine.
The lone roadster. I think it was Jim Hurtibese.
All Wheel Drive. Back when they actually let off the thottle.
The blue #66. I lost that program with Donahue's autograph.
Who could forget Granatelli's cars? Jones and the turbine. Incredible slow coming off the pits. Suddenly it was like someone dumped a can of Red Bull in the tank; above about 110 MPH the car was a rocket.
Gurney's stockblocks.
When CART took over from USAC part of the mystique and intrigue of Indy died; it was no longer the playground for hard working racers it became the property of corporate USA where all that mattered was the business of racing. Looked to be a good move back then, maybe it was.
Too bad the old days of creativity are gone.
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Kevin Callahan
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JD: I remember that. The 1967 Indy 500 was the first race "event" I ever attenced, thanks to closed-circuit TV in the movie theatres. PJ started sixth and once the turbo spooled up, he passed Mario on the outside mid-corner for the lead. Then he spun late in the race and the turbo seemed hellaciously slow at low speed. Then boom, he revved up and was back on pace taking the lead a few laps later.
If it wasn't for that spun gearbox bearing, PJ and the turbo would have beaten Danny Sullivan to the "spin and win" by practically two decades. |
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Chad Stapleton
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| Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry guys , but i had to post this again.
Not just a looker of a car but also from the days of minimal aero aids, so more of a purist look...
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Marty Lemons
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Sitting in the middle of 4 big-ass tires.....cool stuff.....Lotus is king.
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Kerry Cole
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| I have to agree that is the era of the nicest looking F1 also. |
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John Denman
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Spectacular picture Chad, I'm guessing its from a vintage event.
Over the last year I've been spending a good bit of time doing some simracing with rFactor and this thread has motivated me to download a couple of vintage F1 mods. "Slimjim" Cassi a former RIGP TAG winner has kept himself busy creating some really great mods, one of them the F167 kind of a take off of the GP Legends 1967 F1 series. Awesome stuff. No downforce, slippery tires (by current standards) gobs of HP in a featherweight chassis. Puts a whole new level of appreciation of the drivers of that era.
There was once a saying; "there are old drivers, there are bold drivers, there are no old-bold drivers".
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gregg boyce
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I gotta go with this one:
Of the new cars, I think the Virgin F1 is the best looking...soo...go ahead make some jokes about good looking virgins... 
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joseph hollinger
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Very tasty Joe,
...and very apt since it was probably the only US built F1 car prior to the imminent 2010 USF1 car .... ( certainly the only one to win a GP !)
There is definitely something much more attractive in these cars without the Aero devices and distortions.
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gregg boyce
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It will never happen, but I would love to see a modern (ie SAFE) version of a mid to late 60's F1 cars a in a series. DFV's, Ferrari V12, etc, etc.
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Greg
It could happen, it would just require the FIA to do something intellegent (so maybe you're right, it's not going to happen  ).
The cars have been far from beautiful for the last 20 years, but the latest crop are simply ugly - those front wings are terrible.
If I were in charge, I'd get rid of the wings and mandate ferris brakes. It would probably take some sort of NASCAR like rules on what the body had to look like (otherwise there would be some creative interpretations of what isn't a wing), but I'd make the cars look similar to the late 1960's again.
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joseph hollinger
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| Tim Doll wrote: | Greg
It could happen, it would just require the FIA to do something intellegent (so maybe you're right, it's not going to happen ).
The cars have been far from beautiful for the last 20 years, but the latest crop are simply ugly - those front wings are terrible.
If I were in charge, I'd get rid of the wings and mandate ferris brakes. It would probably take some sort of NASCAR like rules on what the body had to look like (otherwise there would be some creative interpretations of what isn't a wing), but I'd make the cars look similar to the late 1960's again.
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I'd require webber carburetors.
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Caleb White
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Joe,
the car is beautiful!! but the simplistic design of the modern BA Arai is what makes the picture above amazing!!
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joseph hollinger
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What some of you may not realize is that that car was the last car before mass production principals were applied to F1. Each Weslake motor was a handcrafted collection of bits, and you couldn't move parts (at least not always) between motors. When Cosworth came on the scene, every part became exchangeable.
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