Any ICA's in your region?

Stephen Buckley · Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 861

Chuck,
I have been ASN/CIK sprint racing north of the border quite a bit. I'm rather lucky, I think, in that the border is as close as our local club track. If I wasn't racing RotaxMax, I'd be racing ICA with a Maxter water-cooled motor. They are really nice machines and a real hoot to watch race. If they only had electric start......

The direct drive karts, the 80cc shifter karts, 4-cycle Honda's and the 125cc clutch karts (Rotax and Parilla) seem to be the most popular classes, at least up in BC.

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: Stephen Buckley ]

Greg Cavouras · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:35 pm Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

Hi Chuck, as you can see I am from western canada (eh!) and let me tell you, the ICA class(es!) are very big classes here. Like we're talking anywhere from 15-30 karts at a club event, and thats just ICA, never mind the ICA-engined novice class!

Jake Thompson · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:42 pm Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

I have to jump in with my fellow canuck and give credit to the ICA class in Western Canada. The IKF regional at Tradex in Abottsford, BC had 40 ICA's. I know there are at least 30 here in Calgary, and there are at least 40 sittin around the greater Vancouver area.... if only we could get them to all go to the same race!

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

Just curious if there are any clubs running the ICA class? With the new H20 cooled motors they may gain popularity again. I see there are classes in western Canada, Any clubs in the US running them?

Jake Thompson · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2001 11:05 am Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

I can only imagine ICA's racing down there in Florida at Jax, on the 1000 foot straightaway... I can see the stuck motors now

Jake Thompson www.jtracing.cjb.net

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

We could use the chicane :-) and those who have been around a while remember how popular that was at the formula K worlds. :-)

CM www.racearsenal.com

Tim Doll · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2001 1:42 pm Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

Chuck

You should also keep in mind that the IKF "Reed/Rotary Light" class is very close to ICA - same engines, similar weight. In both cases most people run direct drive (although neither RRL or ICA prohibit clutches). The IKF class is not "big" anywhere that I know of, but it does alright in the Pacific Northwest.

Tim

Chuck McCue · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 2944

Thanks for the replies. Looks like the western Canada area is the hot bed for ICA , as I thought, hope they catch on in the US.

CM www.racearsenal.com

Greg Cavouras · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2001 10:47 am Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

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Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
I know there are at least 30 here in Calgary, and there are at least 40 sittin around the greater Vancouver area.... if only we could get them to all go to the same race!

Please Jake, be careful what you wish for!!!

The parking lot can't take much more! lol

[ August 04, 2001: Message edited by: Greg Cavouras ]

Jake Thompson · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2001 4:57 pm Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

Jeez Greg, its so like you guys from BC to forget about everyone from over the mountains (just kidding

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Did you forget that we have a new 1200m track over here... we can handle it

Darin Martinez-Stahl · Joined: 05 Aug 2001 Posts: 226 Location: Sacramento

Hey Chuck at the Prairie City Club , we currently run our Super Stock Hvy class with ICA motors, we have about 8 drivers, but only about 4-6 show up, It is pretty hard to get some of the heavier guys on to these motors, due to the great acceleration they have.( most of the folks I have seen try them kind a shy away) But the I have seen a few of our Super heavy drivers looking at this motor due to the speed. The only hard part about it is ,direct drive is a pain when they die on the track, so we have devised some rolling levers/Push bars for the karts so it is easy on the back to move them off/on the track. Plus you do not have any of those embarassing crew/corner worker end over ends that I have seen when trying to push start them.

John Grinager · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2001 6:44 pm Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

I'm new to karting and am jumping in to the Sportsman classes to get my feet wet and learn. Will someone please explain what this ICA thing is to me? I was just at a local track today (Dixon, CA), and while I figured that in a year or two I would look seriously at the RotaxMax because of the simplicity and performance-for-cost, I got a look at the Parilla setup, which I think they call the "National Cup" class around here? It is a 100cc direct drive, water cooled motor, and I was extremely impressed. The only thing faster on the track were the 125 shifters, and I was told that the motor package was only about $1700 bucks, and NO CLUTCHES to deal with (yay!). The Rotax's have clutches, yet they still did not seem to have the pull through/out of the corners that the Parilla did, and their lap times showed it. What is ICA, and what is this Parilla deal? Does anybody think it will grow/survive as a class? It sure was impressive.....

bird · Joined: 17 Jul 2001 Posts: 147

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What is ICA, and what is this Parilla deal?

ICA (Intercontinental A) is the first rung of senior international competition in areas where karting is under control of the FIA. Engines must be 100cc reed valve direct drive and as of this year new engines are watercooled. It's the second fastest major 100cc class behind Formula A if you disregard Formula Super A which is only run as a World Championship. The engine you looked could well have been an ICA motor or it could have been a Formula A rotary.

Some things to remember in a couple of years if you're making a decision:

The engines are cheaper but you would need at least two of them as they are much more prone to seizing etc than the Rotax

They only last a few hours before needing rebuilding whereas Rotaxes will happily go a whole season of racing once or twice a month.

Rotaxes were originally meant to be about 2/10th slower than ICA, so as to provide similar performance at a fraction of the cost, but I'm seeing 1.5secs difference round power circuits at the moment.

The same chassis are good for both classes so if you decide either class is not for you then it's only engines you have to get rid of.

- Mary-Ann www.kartlink.net

Greg Cavouras · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2001 10:11 am Post subject: Any ICA's in your region?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
Jeez Greg, its so like you guys from BC to forget about everyone from over the mountains (just kidding )
Did you forget that we have a new 1200m track over here... we can handle it

Come on Jake, everyone knows there's no life east of the rockies!

But seriously, you keep talking about your "1200m tracks" (jealousy building), as for those I'm just gonna assume there from the same people that made the crop circles.

See? we haven't forgotten about you!!!!