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Sid Swift
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Hi Ian,Andy and Ted--
Ian Just kidding on the time issue,never is enough time !!!!
Love to do the testing,but as always never enough time to
do everything I'd like to--still look forward to hearing Your
results--and always appreciate all that You take the time to
share with the rest of "US"
Hi Andy--thanks for the e-mails,look forward to a chuckle
when I get home from work late--hope alls well w/You and
the Family.
Hey Ted had a good time w/ You @ Atlanta--enjoyed the
"SHINE" of Jimmy's BWAHAHAHAHA!! hope to do it again
soon.
Ian again thanks for all You have taken the time to share
good luck w/all the testing.
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Andy Kiker
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Sid Swift wrote: | Hi Ian, always appreciate all that You take the time to
share with the rest of "US"
Ian again thanks for all You have taken the time to share
good luck w/all the testing.
Regards SID |
Ian I second what Sid said. But I have to mess with you a little anyway.
I started my signature after seeing yours so I guess I will have to change mine now. 
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Ian Harrison
Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain), Manchester
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Andy, Ted & Sid
| Andy Kiker wrote: | Hi Ian, Not sure why my name keeps getting dragged into this    |
Because you are without doubt the master of the one-line putdown and the wind-up king. Just seeking the approval of "The King & Master"
| Andy Kiker wrote: | | If you would do more dyno testing and less typing we all would have the answer by now. |
Unsurprisingly enough, you are not the first to say that, Andy. But then I'm led to believe that you all read it  and I still manage to fit in the housework as well 
| ted dale wrote: | | At least im sober to write this.. |
What's up Ted. You sick or something?
| ted dale wrote: | | Mine is a once peice billet |
Wow
| Sid Swift wrote: | Ian again thanks for all You have taken the time to share good luck w/all the testing.
Regards SID |
Thanks Sid, as long as I have the use of at least one finger I'll be on EkartingNews
| Andy Kiker wrote: | | Ian I second what Sid said. But I have to mess with you a little anyway. |
Wouldn't have it any other way.
| Andy Kiker wrote: | | I started my signature after seeing yours so I guess I will have to change mine now. |
Yes Andy, as they say "a change is as good as a rest" and I certainly needed a rest. Do it my friend, just do it
Right, so as from Thursday night I'll be on the dyno and back on topic with factual results and info.
For those that have forgotten or lost interest that is:
2001 Inlet Rubbers and Reed Blocks
Best Regards
Ian
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Chris Reinhardt
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Location: United States, New York, Ossining
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ian, I don't why this got so out of hand, all anybody said is that the Honda couldn't keep with the Gas-Gas, nobody said anything about your tuning abilities or your multi, multi championships, and you finally even admitted it yourself.
Sorry for the banter...
Maybe you should switch from that tepid beer like swill you Brits drink to a more civlilized German born variety!!! 
Hey Leprechaun, in your arse!!!! 
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Ian Harrison
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Chris
I didn't notice anything getting out-of-hand.
As you seem to have difficulty in understanding and retaining information conveyed by the written word. I will do this one more time because I like you so much
| Chris Reinhardt wrote: | | all anybody said is that the Honda couldn't keep with the Gas-Gas |
My Viper Racing UK Honda CR250's have raced against GasGas powered karts on numerous occassions since 2005 (first time at Oulton Park in 2005 with Peter Dearden driving). They have never been bettered by race finishing position or fastest lap time. I think that goes a little better than "keeping up".
| Chris Reinhardt wrote: | | nobody said anything about your tuning abilities or your multi, multi championships, |
Well actually you did Chris, questioning 2008 & 9 even after I had explained to you (again  ). But I know what you mean, it is hard to criticise perfection.
| Chris Reinhardt wrote: | | and you finally even admitted it yourself. |
All I have ever said over the past 2 years regarding Honda/GasGas performane v price is detailed succinctly in the 2 paragraphs below. This is just "old news" as far as I'm concerned. Just look back over the various posts. I really don't kmow what you are trying to get at.
The GasGas is a fantastic purpose built 6-speed race engine with a good peak power and spread of power, good reliabitlity and acceptable service intervals. It is relatively expensive to purchase run and maintain. Major parts are many times more expensive than Honda parts and as with any highly stressed race engine expensive failures will happen from time-to-time.
The Honda CR250 crankcase induction engine is a relatively inexpensive 5-speed engine originally designed for motocross. This can be converted for use in a Superkart to give a good peak power (say 6-7% less than the GasGas) and an equally good spread of power. If modified correctly it is very reliable and is relatively inexpensive to run and maintain. Major parts are similarly inexpensive and as with any highly stressed modified production engine failures will happen, but repair costs are low.
What I'm saying is you pays your money and takes your choice. A lot more competitors can afford a Honda than a GasGas and good entertaining racing depends (to an extent) on good grid sizes. As the saying goes "horses for courses"
So I'm right in thinking that we'll see you at Miller next year on a GasGas powered machine? Andy, JR and Jayce better watch out I'm sure
| Chris Reinhardt wrote: | | Maybe you should switch from that tepid beer like swill you Brits drink to a more civlilized German born variety!!! :oops:CR |
I'm not quite sure what that has to do with racing, but to answer you on this subject for a second time
My favoured tipple is Draught Guinness (Brewed in Dublin) which (like Germany) is in a whole different country to Britain. I drink it chilled to 2 degrees C. Any of that ringing a bell with you from the last time you asked - - -yawn
| Chris Reinhardt wrote: | | Sorry for the banter... |
Grovelling apology unreservadly accepted.
Best Regards
Ian
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Ian Harrison
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys
I will be starting a new thread entitled:
Viper Racing 2010 CR250 development programme
Hopefully that can stick to factual input and responses on the subject matter only.
The other stuff is fun, but not so helpful for people trying to sift out relevant material.
Best Regards
Ian
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Chris Reinhardt
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Chris, Go play with the other children
As for me, no further comment |
That's what I like, a man of his word... 
| Quote: | | Hopefully that can stick to factual input and responses on the subject matter only. |
That will never happen in here...
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Graham Wilcock
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sure he meant to say Dublin (not Ohio).. If you haven't tried it, you should give it a whirl some time. |
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ted dale
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IAN wrote ( My favoured tipple is Draught Guinness (Brewed in Belfast)
Come on Ian you know better than that, Il give you a hint Where is mondello park you must have raced there. pub"s on every corner its slitly south of belfast the town's name begins with a D and the bigest clue Guinness comes from there
And you can start all the seriouse threads you want but you cant beleve they will stay serious???
And the only reason your Honda's where as good as the gas gas was them driver's did not have me and Brian working on them ( driver's are over rated any body can drive ) it takes a good mech to make them finnish
Think il change my signeture aswell
I can see this is going to be a long long winter
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Chris Hegar
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Warm beer is for pussy's and old wemen.
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Ian Harrison
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Hi Guys
No, I just checked back and I definitely put Dublin
You guys are all going nuts
Ted, nice signature - says it all
That couldn't be the Graham Wilcock - Nah to much of a coincidence.
Best Regards
Ian
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Chris Hegar
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Nothing like a cup of hot soup on a warm summer day.
Pussy's and old women.
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Jim McMahon
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Graham Wilcock
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Ian
Are you the same Ian Harrison who ran the touring car progam at Prodrive back in the hey days? If so then yes I'm the Graham you might remember, brother of Dave, involved back then also. many years ago.. |
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ted dale
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Graham and Ian do you know James Pickford from Congelton that used to drive touring cars a few years ago
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