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Paul Hutt
Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, Washington, Olympia
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: Checking out used kart and range of prices |
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I am going to purchase a used World Formula Kart. Karting is new to me and I know just enough to be dangerous.
Two questions:
1) What should I look at when I inspect a used cart so I can detect any potential problems. (If I think it looks ok, I am then going to take it to a kart shop for them to inspect.)
2) What range of prices should I expect for a good kart that is no more than 3 years old. (I have found two for sale for $1,500 & $1,700 and all the ads say about the engines is that "the engine runs great." )
Your help is greatly appreciated. |
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John Matthews
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1994 Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi Paul,
Welcome to karting, the World Formula is a great package for beginners and sportsman racers alike.
The first thing to check on a used chassis is wear on the frame rails. Run your hand over the underside, or better yet stand it up on end so you can see the botom. All karts that have been driven will have some wear on the botom but if the rails are flat in the middle of the frame the chassis is shot. Remember, in a kart your frame is the suspension so you need all the wall thickness for it to work right.
Next thing is brakes. they should be firm when you press the pedal and the lever on the master cylinder shouldn't go past 90 degrees. Check the steering and make sure the axle spins smoothly.
As for the engine, count on doing a rebuild sometime in the next year (around $300 + parts). It should start easily and idle. It should also rev quickly when you put the throttle to it. The spec clutch is pretty tough but make sure it isn't worn out by reving the engine with the brake on. It should be able to overcome the brake when it locks up.
Unless you are lucky you will end up getting a new seat. This isn's a bad thing since the seat is the second most important chassis component and it needs to fit well. They are around $100 and a generic fiberglass one is fine in most cases.
$1500 isn't a bad price for a race ready kart, of course anything that needs to be fixed lowers that. Also, if the seller really needs the money you can sometimes get much better deals but beware of anything that seems too good. The best deal is usually from someone who's moving up classes and bought a new kart. That way you can ask set-up questions at the track and maybe even get some driving tips. Watch out for anyone who doesn't race or says they got the kart from their buddy who owed them money.
A good local shop will evaluate the kart and help make sure you aren't getting ripped off, but understand they are in the business of selling these things. Let them know that if they treat you right you will continue to give them your business as you move up in karting.
Good luck, _________________ John Matthews
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Paul Hutt
Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, Washington, Olympia
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: Thanks John |
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John, I appreciate the info. I am 58 years old and must be crazy.
I do not know if you knew or heard of David Clift who was one of the top karters a the senior divison that had the fastest karts but I am going to his former shop Kart-O-Rama in Sumner WA to get any kart I want to buy to get inspected. David pasted a way last year in his sleep - probably dreaming of how many victories he had.  |
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Alan Sheidler
Joined: 09 Aug 2001 Posts: 471
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks John |
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| Paul Hutt wrote: | John, I appreciate the info. I am 58 years old and must be crazy.
I do not know if you knew or heard of David Clift who was one of the top karters a the senior divison that had the fastest karts but I am going to his former shop Kart-O-Rama in Sumner WA to get any kart I want to buy to get inspected. David pasted a way last year in his sleep - probably dreaming of how many victories he had.  |
Nah, you're not crazy. A little speed lust will keep guys like us (I'm also 58 ) young! The family's WF is on a Gold 30/30 chassis, and it's competition life has been SCCA's Formula Junior autocross with my sons. Now that those days are over, it is a track kart for practice days to keep me and my oldest son (and a couple of friends) in shape. (I autocross a shifter)
Anyway, one item you should pay attention to with the engine is where it is in the build series. No great secret here, some of the early ones suffered catastrophic failures, as in breaking the block. Our Series II has been awesome, and we recently upgraded it to the PVL ignition setup. When looking at a used kart, I'd want to know a history of the motor, such as: 1. What series it is. Go here and figure out what it is first.
http://www.fastermotors.net/BLOCKEVOLUTION.html
2. How many times it has been rebuilt, and by who?
3. How many hours since last freshening?
Good luck and HAVE FUN! |
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charles hunter
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 732 Location: United States, California, anaheim
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Paul, I'm also 58, look 58, feel 58 and thank God I am crazy and can't quit the sport I love!! _________________ swampwater smyth concurs "If you aint first, yer last."
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