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don johnson



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that.

Are they going to DQ the shop that put the seal in backwards, rebuilt the motor???

http://www.ekartingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=51115&highlight=

You'd be doing everyone a favor in publishing the shop name so other parents and their young racers don't have to go thru this with that shop.


From what I heard your son drove a great race he should be very proud of the race he drove.
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Hal Haley



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: nats Reply with quote

Taylor Jocelyn wrote:
I would like to thank the people at the track for all of their hospitality. The Track has been one of the best run tracks we have been to.

Thanks to all that came by the tent to congratulate then console Cameron and all of us. Cameron handeled it better than the rest of us.

The DQ was for an oil seal that was inverted upon instalation. no performance advantage of any sort.

Good luck to all of the US team wish we were going with you.

The Jocelyn Family


Wow, your family, with Cameron at the forefront, are first class representatives of the sport of karting. I wasn't there, and I understand that rules and protocols need to be followed, but an inverted oil seal? Surely the race and tech directors understand "in the spirit of the rules"?

Congratulations to your whole family - we should all strive to follow your example.

Hal
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Branden Underwood



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameron, great job driving at the Rotax Nationals, you are a great friend and racing competitor, you deserve the kudos for all your hard work! Too bad they couldn't keep you on the podium and we are sorry for what happened and we we will see you racing at the next IKF race next month!

Your friend,
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Troy McCall



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did Erik Jackson get DQ'd in masters?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job Taylor and Cameron!! I know how hard you guys have been working at it. Hopefully this is not over. I'll see you guys at the track.
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Scott Weeks



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troy McCall wrote:
Why did Erik Jackson get DQ'd in masters?


From what I understand the gears for the counter balance were not properly aligned. not sure of the exact specifics, but it was protested and shot down.
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SHAYNE SHIPLEY



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Billet Performance, BTK, Arrow USA and True North Motorsports for all the help. Finishing 1st and 2nd in DD2 is still setting in. Stuart and Brandon both drove flawless all day Saturday.
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Jeff Metter



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Job Ship !! It helps that the boyz from down south can drive Huh ??
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had the kart and motor hooked up on Saturday. Arrow 1st, 2nd and 4th. The boys drove awesome.
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Cody Tracy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: v Reply with quote

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Steve Ferrario



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shayne,
Between last years Rotax GN's & this year, there is NO question that the Arrow DD2 is simply the best package in the world!
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Jordon Musser



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Shayne and of course Stuart and Brandon. Also Curtis for a great 3rd place run.

I wish I had something for you guys, but in the dry i certainly did not. Time to put my thinking cap on and sort things out for next year!
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Robert Brooks



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats to Cameron, Taylor and the entire family and crew. They are ALL a class act. Cool
Cameron has always been one of my favorite drivers and has proved he has the talent to run at the front of any field and would have given them Hell Twisted Evil at the worlds. (Oh, and Taylor is my favorite starter too) Rolling Eyes
I feel your pain brother....It's too bad an inadvertant error would have such a high cost...
We'll have a big ol BBQ @ the next club race, I'll fire up the blender for you...We look forward to seeing you guys soon...
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Roy Gaston



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every Rule Book that I have ever seen states that even though the it's not mandatory to display a White Flag; if you do display it, the White Flag "Must be followed by the Checkered Flag"

Not sure what the Rotax book says about White Flags. But once it is displayed, every driver on the track is expecting to see the race end on the very next lap. They are concentrating on racing for position on that final lap and not wondering if the Checkered Flag will be displayed, because it MUST BE displayed the next lap after the White Flag is displayed.

In all fairness, Rotax Officials should revert back to the lap after the White Flag was first displayed and use that as the final lap finishing order, no matter what the lap count was at that time.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Rotax runs under the CIK rules under my interpretation the senior race finished under a red flag therefore they should count the 19th lap as the final score.


Case C : 75% or more of the Race distance (rounded up to
the nearest whole higher number of laps). The karts shall
be sent directly to the Parc Fermé and the Race will be
deemed to have finished when the leading kart crossed the
Line at the end of the lap prior to that during which the
Race was stopped. Full points will be awarded.
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