CRG VEN 05 Brakes

Chuck Eaton · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: CRG VEN 05 Brakes

I was curious about the new VEN 05 brakes in the shifter application. Any opinions on performance between the VEN 04 vs VEN 05? Thanks
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Jake Rosenzweig · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

yes they differ. there was a thread not that longer which discussed this in depth.

http://www.ekartingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=51742&highlight=

to me two options exist.

ven04 steel or ven05 ceramic
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Tom Gilmore · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject:

Well Chuck,

jury is still out on the ven05 brakes. First outing did not go so well, they wouldn't stop. Jake, since you have some knowledge on the ven 05 brakes could you give me some insight on the ceramic ones. In the tech section I posted my first weekend troubles, I looking for any help in figuring out the ven 05 brakes.

Chuck, all other posts about the ven 05 ceramics have been very positive, I will keep you posted. see you at the track.

Tom

Chuck Eaton · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject:

Tom,
Are you using the correct brake pads for the ceramic rotor?? I've heard that there are different pads for the ceramic rotor than what you would use on the steel rotor.
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Mike Speed · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject:

For me in a 125 shifter app the ven 05 is a big step forward over the ven04. The steel will work great but there is a about a 2-3 lb weight disadvantage to the ven04. If weight is an issue and money is not, then the ceramic is the cats meow!

NOTE: IMPORTANT!!! the ceramic must use the green pads and you MUST give three session of easy break-in for new disks. After that the feel and power is very good, the best I have ever seen (I not kidding) the pad wear will go 3-4 times longer the ven04.

I hope this helps!

Mike

Tom Gilmore · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:57 am Post subject:

Mike,

Thanks for the great info. What if you did not do the three easy break in sessions with a new rotor? I did not, there is a lot of pad material left on the rotor, and it does not stop. I hope I did not ruin the rotor, I am using the green pads.

Thanks again Tom

Mike Speed · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:53 am Post subject:

Not sure if there is a permenent problem, but if the braking is N/G then de-glaze the disks and start again with new pads.

good luck.

Jake Rosenzweig · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject:

having used all the systems i have to say that the only options are ven-04 steel and ven 05 ceramic. the ceramic is a very good albeit pricey solution. The ven04 pads do wear out quicker but thats not really a massive problem. I guess the best way of describing the difference is that the ceramics vs ven04 the overall "power" is equal. The feel is very similar up until the edge where the ceramic is a little more i guess progressive and the ven04 a little more agressive. If one has problems overheating the old system then the ven 05 ceramic will be an improvement. otherwise its more a feel thing...if you must have the new system get the ceramic...

i do not reccomend the steel discs. not as good overall power, less progressive and at vegas i ended up having to change the balance in the final as the rear disc started grabbing. might have been a one off problem...but never used them again.
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Jake Rosenzweig · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject:

Note: in the end with both the ven04 steel and ven05 ceramic one isnt limited by the brake system you are limited by the tyre and how close to the edge as a driver you can get..
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Mike Speed · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject:

Jake, as far a th steel ven05.... let just say we agree to disagree. Wink

Jake Rosenzweig · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject:

haha fair enough mike. c u guys soon.
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joe chan · Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Canada, Not USA,

My New 07 Black star came with the floating rotor. But I can't tell if the rotor is steel or aluminum. The CRG site metioned the floating set up has the aluminum rotor. How can I tell if the rotor is steel or not?

Brian O'Hara · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject:

Joe,

Try putting a magnet up to it. If it sticks it's steel, if not it's aluminum.

-Brian

Jeff Shadoan · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: