Official EKN Awards Discussion

David Cole · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: Official EKN Awards Discussion

This thread is the Official EKN Awards Nomination Discussion Thread. EKN readers can discuss their lists and others. No lists published on this thread will be used in the final calculations. Forum rules apply to this thread, so please follow the guidelines while discussing the topic.

To submit your list, visit http://www.ekartingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=327217

For more information on the program, visit http://www.ekartingnews.com/news_info.php?n=7439
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David Cole · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:11 am Post subject:

The EKN Awards nomination process is now complete and the EKN staff will go through all the nominations to produce the five nominees for each of the six categories. We hope to have nominees announced soon. Thank you to all the EKN viewers who submitted their choices both on the forum and through email.
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Chris Wehrheim · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:23 am Post subject:

How could Kyle Adkins and or Dennis Reeves not be nominated as mechanic of the year? These guys have to take care of 3-4 karts per weekend. Kyle takes care of Brandon's stuff and helps out numerous other drivers like myself. I am not sure if you consider him a tuner and thats why he wasnt chosen, but then Shawn Regula should have been chosen. Sorry guys but you missed it on this one!!!

Rob Howden · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:42 am Post subject:

Joey Gennari · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:35 am Post subject:

Rob,

Just curious if the system would work better the other way around. I see how the sheer number of people voting can really take votes away from teams that might be more deserving. What if the system was reversed, where EKN picked the top 5 (not extremely hard to do in all the categories), did the research on each one, filed a full report on why they were nominated, then really give the vote back to the people. It's a little less democratic, but imagine voting for president with 5000 names on the ballot. Is the winner really what the majority wants? Just food for thought ...
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Chris Wehrheim · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:54 am Post subject:

Why do you even need the publics vote. All I saw was a popularity contest on the forums atleast.

Brent Harper · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:47 am Post subject:

I agree with Chris and Joey.. Let the magazine or some other potentially unbiased folks pick the nominees... I also don't think that the person that won a title is always the best in that field.. Wink

It should be based more on dominance, not who showed up the most. Not trying to critisize you guys, you all do a hell of a job, but I even saw some people nominate themselves??? Rolling Eyes

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Brian Bettencourt · Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 33

thats a load of crap, i agreed with everyone selected they are the best in the country. the people who posted on here are doing the same thing they are complaining about ... lobbying for their favorites to be chosen.

i think the tuners selected were very chosen appropriately just look at the results of their drivers to prove it.

Mike Speed (Gary Carlton) - Supernats x winner, stars national champion

Greg Bell (Jordy Vorrath) - Six Stars race wins

Dave Carpantier (Tad Funakoshi) - cant find results but tad finished top 5 in points in stars and had many podium positions

Seth Nash (joel miller) - ICA national champion

Brian Bettencourt (michael vincec) - 1 stars race win & stars rookie of the year

ICC & ICA in stars are the most competitive classes in north america with the best drivers and when you have that many talented drivers fighting for every tenth of a second the top tuners are the ones who can find it

no disrespect to your selections but running a KT100 class in wka does not compare to competing in icc or ica at stars

i dont think there is any bias in the selections just because you dont agree with the selections, if jordy vorrath just had some guy off the street i dont think he would have done as well .... would you?

i know the guy that helped YOU will always be seen as the best in your mind because you see first hand the advice you get works for you but you have to appreciate the work of others,

for me just to nominated with 2 previous winners of the awards is a huge honor and there were so many that were left out as well such as shayne shipley and vince mandarino

SHAYNE SHIPLEY · Joined: 02 Aug 2001 Posts: 1518

Thank you Brian you guys had a hell of a year. I do wonder how different, if any if the mags choose the nominies.
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Jim Fry · Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:58 am Post subject:

Road Racer of the Year
Derek Crockett - Championship Enduro Series
Chad Dokken - WKA National Road Racing Series
Eric Freiberg - WKA National Road Racing Series
Nate Grindell - WKA National Road Racing Series
Andy Kiker - U.S. Superkart Championship

What a great group of nominees. I know all had a great year, but I do not believe any was better than Grindells:

WKA Natl. Points, raced in 4 classes finishing 1,2,3&4th with 5 races and all his competitors had 6-8 races (best 6 of Cool

Not sure how the smiley got in here!?!

Won 4 WKA Grand National races at Mid-Ohio

Won 3 KART Triads at Topeka, KS

Won 3 races at Rd. America etc., etc.

What a year and he was playing baseball the first third of the season.

Austin Henry · Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 258

Jim,
I could not agree more. Nate is the best.

Austin
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patrick slattery · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:

Brian I have to agree with Gary, that comment was moronic. Bring those stars boys over to WKA 100cc and let see what they do. Its not all about buying the most HP, its also about driving.

Pat

Chris Wehrheim · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject:

Is the stars competition better? Yes it is, but in no way are the top drivers in Stars better than the top drivers in WKA. The fields are deeper in stars and you can see a race winner running in 15th on a bad weekend. A bad weekend for someone in WKA is running around in 5th.

Are the mechanics any better in Stars than WKA? Nope not one bit.

I never said the people selected didnt deserve it, because I believe they all do. I just feel Kyle deserves to be nominated more. Brandon won 4 championships in two different series and I believe won more races than anyone else on the list. I think his mechanic had to have been a big part of that...and this is not because I have a relationship with them. This would go for anyone that accomplishes something like that.