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Larry MacLeod
Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 299 Location: United States, Michigan, Ypsilanti
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Our Jr karts are gridded in the most convenient location to the start/finish. Actually our region typically has F125 gridded in the same location (most of the time).
For runs, we will let the cars on course finish their run (at a usual audit location like the end of the heat) then start sending kids while T&S conducts the audit. Once the last kid is back to grid, we start moving regular cars back to the start line.
We also have to stop the course mid-way in the heat for 2nd drivers in FJr. Yes, this takes another 40 seconds to clear the course but we have enough 2-driver Jr karts to warrent this format. It also usually falls at an audit time.
This way the kids all get a chance to get out of the kart, talk to their parents and switch drivers (if necessary) after every run.
LM _________________ F125 #196
Old Birel/ hodgepodge Honda CR125
Lefty Funk
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Brian Garfield
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 667 Location: United States, Maryland, SKCA Racing!
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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So you're doing it safe as well. We are simply too strapped for time to cater to the kids in that manner (and I have two of them). We run over 1000 runs a day, not including reruns, so we need to move swiftly. Heck, the committee had to stew over running so many F125's this year mixed in with the cars...
The other nice thing about not running the kids with the cars is this: the kids are NEVER running at the same time their parents are, no matter what the parents drive.
I know I'd go NUTS if both my kids drove in the same heat as my wife and I!
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Andrew Bell
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like Detroit runs the same format as OVR. The trick was to clear the last full body in a timely fashion so there was little delay in releasing the juniors. Forty to sixty seconds was about the delay time we had last year. We also ran the 125's with the juniors. We did a specific grid where 125s go first, then FJa's, B's and finally the kid kart. Our juniors were gridded fastest to slowest, so we rarely had any delays. When we had only a couple 125's this worked ok. At the end of the year when we had 4-5 shifters and 7 juniors,we realized we had to change. For the last event we ran the shifters at the end of the mod cars group and it worked out well. We plan to run the same way this year. |
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chris putman
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 17 Location: United States, Alabama, Decatur
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Stay away from the Albany, NY region. They have said in conversations that they do not want karts at their events but I am welcome to bring my jepp out. They will not state in an e-mail the same. With that approach and the distance to the next closest area I am looking to sell my shifter. |
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John Denman
Joined: 19 Jul 2001 Posts: 4846 Location: United States, Texas, McKinney
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| chris putman wrote: | | Stay away from the Albany, NY region. They have said in conversations that they do not want karts at their events but I am welcome to bring my jepp out. They will not state in an e-mail the same. With that approach and the distance to the next closest area I am looking to sell my shifter. |
I've heard that same attitude from some folks in the southeast too. Apparently after one of them showed up at an SCCA Solo and scored FTD he was told not to come back with a kart again last year. He mentioned that a couple of guys with formula cars were livid that a go kart got FTD.
In our area we usually have a pretty good battle for FTD between a Rotary power Sports Racer, old Formula Atlantic, some Formula SAE cars, and the F125's. _________________ John Denman
Producer for RTMP
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Brian Garfield
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 667 Location: United States, Maryland, SKCA Racing!
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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What a joke. That attitude is absolutely pathetic.
Brian |
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Ryan D Thompson
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 199 Location: United States, Georgia,
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| John Denman wrote: | | chris putman wrote: | | Stay away from the Albany, NY region. They have said in conversations that they do not want karts at their events but I am welcome to bring my jepp out. They will not state in an e-mail the same. With that approach and the distance to the next closest area I am looking to sell my shifter. |
I've heard that same attitude from some folks in the southeast too. Apparently after one of them showed up at an SCCA Solo and scored FTD he was told not to come back with a kart again last year. He mentioned that a couple of guys with formula cars were livid that a go kart got FTD.
In our area we usually have a pretty good battle for FTD between a Rotary power Sports Racer, old Formula Atlantic, some Formula SAE cars, and the F125's. |
Any idea what SE region that was. I haven't heard of any region in the SE that doesn't allow karts. Now if you are talking non-scca like bmw clubs or PCA then I can definately see that. |
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Andrew. james
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 245 Location: United States, Georgia, Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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The BMW club in Atlanta will not let me bring my kart but lets other people bring karts. I have no idea why that is.  |
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Michael Contour
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 75 Location: United States, California, Del Mar
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| In the San Diego region, we had a pretty heated debate when it came to allowing karts to run. One concession the karters had to make was to exclude karts from the top-time-of-day trophy competition. |
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Brian Garfield
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 667 Location: United States, Maryland, SKCA Racing!
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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WAIT a minute! There are two "regular" Solo classes that are "supposed" to be faster than F125!
What is going on with the egos of these people?
That said, I wouldn't give a crap about not having my name at the top, it's pretty much a given in an F125, so why bother. People see you run your time. Heck, most stop what they're doing to watch the karts. Although, I'm sure that won't last forever.
I think the fast kids still steal the show.
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Dan Davis
Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 2195 Location: United States, Kansas, Wichita
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| They are all still pissed because they got ripped off by the BMW/Acura/Subaru/Mitsubishi dealers........Most of them just need to relax and realize that cars aren't so quick when compared to karts especially on tight courses. With that knowledge, it is sad to think that a cone killer can even have an ego large enough or a brain small enough to be belittled by a little go kart......whatever. There doesn't seem to be any real prejudice towards karts in the mid west but I have only attended one event. |
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Brian Garfield
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 667 Location: United States, Maryland, SKCA Racing!
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we're welcoming them here in D.C., of course it helps that I'm on committee
We've had a couple of shifters for the last couple of years, but this year it's 10 so it's a bigger impact as to how we handle them. One event so far and everything is reasonably smooth.
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Mike Rodriguez
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 59
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Brian Garfield wrote: | What a joke. That attitude is absolutely pathetic.
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Totally agree. That'd EFFn lame of any region.
I vow that if I win the Mega Millions Lottery, I will be setting up THE most KICK ASS karting facility in the States. I will have a huge autocross area and we'll have a kart only event. Make all the "real cars" watch from outside the fenceline. LOL...  _________________ cheers!
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Andrew. james
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 245 Location: United States, Georgia, Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Rodriguez wrote: | | Brian Garfield wrote: | What a joke. That attitude is absolutely pathetic.
Brian |
Totally agree. That'd EFFn lame of any region.
I vow that if I win the Mega Millions Lottery, I will be setting up THE most KICK ASS karting facility in the States. I will have a huge autocross area and we'll have a kart only event. Make all the "real cars" watch from outside the fenceline. LOL...  |
I vow that if I win I will never drive a kart again, because I will be to busy driving my enzo. |
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chris putman
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 17 Location: United States, Alabama, Decatur
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| I ran with the club in Columbus, Ohio club and they welcomed karts at their events. It was my first experience with SCCA Solo and I thought that would be the norm so I was looking forward to my move to Albany. Good clubs are great to be a part of and you are lucky if you have one that welcomes karts. Afterall, it is a recognized catagory at the national level. |
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