250 Superkart Oval Races?

George Sunderland · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2006

Why don't we hear discussion on the possibility of 250 oval races. Wouldn't a scheudle mixing road coruses and ovals like CART be cool? One things for sure, there's places like Rockingham, North Wilkes and Darlington just sitting around so they should be cheap. I know I know. I ran the Yamaha oval demo races that Johnny J put on in front of the NASCAR fans at Darlington and except for the stands being full, it was a little dull driving all the way around with your foot pegged. However, something tells me it would be more exciting on a 250. And, face it, American race fans love oval racing. If you want to get media attention, give them somehting they can relate to. Something to think about.

CHRIS TAYLOR · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:41 am Post subject:

I do not think the tires woud take it. Very Dangerous inside the walls!

Just my thoughts????

Kevin Kann · Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 431

The last time I remember is 1985 at the Milwaukee Mile. The 250cc supported the ASA or Late Model guys and just killed in laps times never to be invited back. I guess it was good because after 50 laps the tires I seen were down to the cord. Shocked

Reggie Brown, Jr · Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 310

If we could find a track with no walls that would be pretty cool, otherwise it would never work. I'd like to see someone balzy enough to run a f/e on a circle track hard, let alone race with other karts. guys die racing cars on ovals, I would never do it, just my thoughts. Are there any tracks without walls?

Reggie

Chris Reinhardt · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:

How would you determine the racing line if you have no walls? It would be a big skid pad!!!

Chris R.

Reggie Brown, Jr · Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 310

I know a lot of dirt tracks used to run without walls, the bank remains but if you go to far up the track you just slide down the hill. The top of the bank becomes the highest possible racing line, depending on how brave you are Smile

Reggie

George Sunderland · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2006

Tires are no issue. Run SLs and if they don't hold up we could run Carlisle Super Slicks or Blue Streaks. Then we could see who can drive and who just has a bigger wallet. I ran with a couple of guys last year at Anderson Speedway on South Carolina. Its a 3/8 miles oval and the walls were scary but what a blast. With way opff gearing, all six of us (3 250 singles and 3 125GP engines including 2 laydowns) were all turning late model times

Chris Reinhardt · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject:

I ran a short dirt track up here in NY in a 125 a long time ago, and yes it's a blast but racing somebody would be a different story.
It's really not a good idea and definitely not safe to race a kart that fast on an oval track, that's why it's not done.

Todd Bellew · Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 2902

The guys at Daytona are sick. They last sprint race I saw on a wall asphalt was at IRP. The Yamahas and briggs did the ovals and sprint used a modified road course. It was one of the most unfortunate races for a specific customer of mine. It wasn't easy seeing one of my hand buit karts almost kill a guy. Fortunately, it was INdianapolis and Doctor Trammel was there to put him back together again. He still limps today.

Thanks,
Todd BEllew

Michael Grady · Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 69

I race dirt ovals on the east coast. I ran in the Tri State All Star Series. The last race was won by a guy with 2 TT75s on alcohol. Now I know that is only about 75hp and maybe 35 lb-ft of torque but it hauls pretty well. I wouldn't have a problem in the world running a 250. I don't know if you could do 50 laps though.......holy cow.....I am worn out after 20. My MyChron gold suggests that we are way over 2 Gs in the corners. You don't get much of a break on the straights, running well over 75mph on a 1/4 mile track. My head is ready to fall off when the race is over. Helmet lanyards are commonly used to help out.
Good Luck,
Mike Grady

CHRIS TAYLOR · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:51 am Post subject:

You run a ICE or FE around a paved oval, someone is going to get HURT..!

Tim Koyen · Advertiser Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 1556

Our club ran an event on the oval at the Milwaukee Mile earlier this year. It was a blast, but we did have one wall incident, someone hit the end of the pit wall while coming off the track. Other than that, the track was so wide that normal karts (shifters on down) didn't get near the outside wall. We don't have any 250s, but my son's HPV hit 96mph in the draft with CIK bodywork. The shifters were around 110mph in the draft.

Alot of people loved it, but it had its tense moments, especially passing using the draft, without spotters and radios.

Chris Reinhardt · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject:

I have an idea, why not race motorcycles on a paved ovals?

Chris R.