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Mitchell Dixon
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| Axel Korn wrote: | Stars offers the pinnacle of talent the opportunity to compete and gain exposure under the CIK format with some minor changes. Rotax had a low turnout because aimed at the recreational racer, the associated cost for recreational racing is too high. (even with the concept of cost saving with the seal)
EK is even more restricted than Rotax, because besides the motor, all tuning tools for the chassis have been eliminated as well. There is nothing pinnacle about EK. Its kinda like a shopping kart with an engine. That (lack of experience in making changes and the effects thereof) certainly prepares a youngster for a technical debrief after a BMW test session.
EK will never be what ICA, JICA and ICC is and will become. Cash is always king and Stars can certainly use the cash EK paid them for their series. However, EK is a seriously limited ride and will never have the recognition the ICA, JICA and ICC have.
In a national TaG Championship, Easy kart will most certainly be "Easy Prey" (Thanks Joe)
IMO it has no place In the Stars Series. |
EasyKart...it gets extremely fast very quickly. Easykart can become as big as the classes you named, and possibly even bigger. easykart has only been around for a short time, and it will blow up in popularity in due time. Just because you race an easykart does not mean you will not know how to tune karts and cars, because i certainly know a little about how to tune cars and i race easykart. I read books and reading is fundimental.  .Its not only the kart either that makes you fast, its your driving skill. Easy Prey? I and other easykart drivers THINK NOT.
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Mitchell Dixon
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| Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Easykart |
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| E Fowler wrote: | Mitchell, would love to know who went 100 hrs without a rebuild,I think you need to get your info more accurate.Also the engines can run 50 hrs without a rebuild & be competitive. In regards to you running up front I havnt seen that yet you have blown up in the last 5 races if I am not mistaken. I am been watching your posts and u are giving people wrong info in regards to the Easykart. Easykart is a great spec class for people starting into karting,its affordable & easy tuning. To get the best info about Easykart contact a local dealer or someone who tunes their own Easykart. Good Luck to all racing in The Stars of Karting.  Also Easykart now has a forum to all who have questions. Have A Great Day All |
the gaskets were messed up and it was seizing. After about 4-5 race laps, when the motor was good and up to temperature, the leaks in the gaskets would "suck air" into the cylinder creating a lean condition. Qualifying was never a problem because i would only do 3-4 laps. i was oblivious to the whole problem because i thought the gaskets were changed each rebuild, before my first rebuild i was running ok, but i just needed to learn alot more about driving.
Dont mean to give out wrong info if i did, easykart just excites me concerning its future and fun. I am still learning to not mix emotion with racing, its a bad drink nobody needs to be drinking. But what can i say, easykart is what kept me in karting and off the streets racing where i dont need to be even starting to try to go fast.
As you posted, this is not always the best info to read for correct info, anyone can be wrong. it is best to ask a dealer as you stated. to everybody, i apologize for any misleading information i have posted which has pointed you in the wrong direction.
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Angel Figueras
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Location: United States, California, Glendale
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: Rotax vs Easy |
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I was not disputing that EK is faster than Rotax on their spec tires. However, if you place the same tires (YGK) on both, the performance difference shrinks somewhat and then fine tuning, experience and driving ability begin to play a much bigger role in their relative performance.
The EK on Stars spec MG whites were much faster than our fastest Rotax on YGK's.....about a second.
Have to go. Portuguesa and Recife Sport are on live.
Warm regards,
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Cory Pollock
Joined: 07 May 2004
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Location: United States, California, Canyon Lake
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: angel |
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Angel,
I have to disagree on whet u said because I was more than a second faster at gatorz in qualifing. I won the heat by 17 seconds. I was about eight seconds ahead of you when the red flag came out. You where running the same times as me because I wasnt running hard. I was told by my dad and friend that mechanics for me (kyle eggleton) that if I am out front by long way then take it easy and so I did. If I were trying to catch up to somebody like you where I would be way faster then I was running. |
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Mitchell Dixon
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Angel,
I understand fully what you are sayin. As you may notice i am just passioante about easykart.haha.I was only sayin ek's are faster than rotax where i am and other places also. Yes tires may have an effect on that, but with equal tires i still would assume ek's are faster.Then again, rotax's were originally desgined for moto racing, and adapted for karting. The power bands are different than an ek engine, ours being the more beneficial of the 2. Rotax karts are great, dont get me wrong. I just lik easykart. 
I would like to give Congrat's to all of the easykart driver from miami, and special congrats to Ryan Fowler for his strong finish and extremely close win on saturday. As of this time (6:09pm eastern) i have not seen sundays results but i am sure they will be something to look for.
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Andy Seesemann
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The point that most miss about this entire argument, is that it doesn't matter which is faster. As the TaG rules are defined as a "living document" that can be changed at any time, weights can be changed if any motor proves faster than the others.
If Easykart proves over time (not just one or two races with 2 drivers) that it is faster, then the TaG rules will reflect that any make EK owners add weight. If ROTAXes, or Leopards, or ROKs, etc. prove to be faster, then they will have to add weight.
The TaG concept is not about faster, its about equal.
Andy
P.S. I just hope that the sanctioning bodies, clubs and race series practice a little restraint when it comes to changing the weights based on one or two races. We need lots of races and lots of data before the rules should change. It would be bad to have knee jerk reactions every time someone wins a race by a large margin. Sometimes, you just have your day and you get it right.
P.P.S. Be careful Cory, don't get too cocky. I watched you win the EasyKart race at STARS Moran racing against a variety of drivers, including a couple of guys that raced STARS ICC and ICA last year. Then the next week, I watched you get beat by a guy almost 40 years your senior. You are only as good as your last race, remember that. One last thing, if you remember, Angel was only about the 4th or 5th fastest ROTAX that day in Int'l, he was just the only one that also raced TaG against you. And won...
See you at Willow.
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